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diff --git a/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-log-20100318.txt b/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-log-20100318.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..52960de --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/kde-project-meeting-log-20100318.txt @@ -0,0 +1,206 @@ +[22:02:03] <tampakrap> alexxy / bonsaikitten / dagger / jmbsvicetto / lxnay / mrpouet / reavertm_ / scarabeus / spatz / wired +[22:02:05] <tampakrap> meeting time +[22:02:12] <tampakrap> http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/maintainers/meetings/meeting-2010-03-18;h=b056be61645fbd793cf07cb9d0eb968e961cb2c1;hb=HEAD +[22:02:21] <tampakrap> who is here? +[22:02:25] <dagger> mesa here +[22:02:29] <spatz> me +[22:02:39] <scarabeus> boss around +[22:02:44] <spatz> although my connection is flaky +[22:02:47] <leio> ping me when it gets to subprofile stuff I guess. Preoccupied 30 more mins +[22:03:00] <tampakrap> leio: i was about to ping me +[22:03:07] <tampakrap> ok let's skip it for now +[22:03:12] <tampakrap> s/me/you +[22:03:18] <leio> well, in that agenda it's last item anyway.. +[22:04:11] <tampakrap> let's wait another 10 mins, many ppl are away +[22:04:31] -*- alexxy here ;) +[22:05:54] <scarabeus> I will start with the lighter thing +[22:06:00] <scarabeus> since there were no objections to new rules +[22:06:01] --> willikins (~rbot@gentoo/bot/Willikins) has joined #gentoo-meetings +[22:06:10] <tampakrap> woohaa bot is back +[22:06:13] <tampakrap> !herd kde +[22:06:16] <scarabeus> i will start enforcing them +[22:06:36] <tampakrap> where is the draft first of all? +[22:06:39] <scarabeus> so i will thin up team list probably +[22:06:40] <tampakrap> and why isn't it in git? +[22:06:52] <scarabeus> what for my rules? +[22:06:55] <scarabeus> i sent you mail +[22:07:06] <tampakrap> ok, commit it in git :) +[22:07:36] <scarabeus> http://dev.gentoo.org/~scarabeus/kde-team-rules.html +[22:08:04] <scarabeus> i would have to find that rst first :P +[22:08:15] <jmbsvicetto> pong +[22:08:28] <tampakrap> ok let's start now +[22:08:29] <jmbsvicetto> I just need a minute to put my things down and I'll be back +[22:08:34] <tampakrap> again who is here? +[22:08:51] <scarabeus> scarab +[22:09:09] -*- spatz ← +[22:09:09] <tampakrap> !herd kde +[22:09:26] <tampakrap> (it responds to pm at least) +[22:09:36] <tampakrap> <willikins> (kde) abcd, alexxy, carlo, cryos, dagger, deathwing00, jmbsvicetto, keytoaster, lxnay, mrpouet, patrick, scarabeus, spatz, sping, tampakrap, tgurr, wired +[22:09:57] -*- wired o/ +[22:10:25] -*- alexxy partialy there or here or somwhere else +[22:11:09] <tampakrap> scarabeus: go on with the removal of members plz +[22:11:18] <tampakrap> what's the news on this? +[22:11:28] <scarabeus> well you didnt complain +[22:11:35] <scarabeus> so i will put down a list, and clean up +[22:11:46] <scarabeus> you had 1 month to write objections to my rules list :] +[22:12:14] <scarabeus> just to note, it has nothing against the named developers, i just preffer that people know who is maintaining it +[22:12:59] <jmbsvicetto> here +[22:13:02] <tampakrap> anything else on this? +[22:13:31] <scarabeus> only if you have questions +[22:13:58] <tampakrap> questions? anyone? +[22:14:52] <tampakrap> so, people are going to be removed from the team, i repeat: questions? +[22:15:13] <willikins> (kde) abcd, alexxy, carlo, cryos, dagger, deathwing00, jmbsvicetto, keytoaster, lxnay, mrpouet, patrick, scarabeus, spatz, sping, tampakrap, tgurr, wired +[22:15:38] <tampakrap> let's move on +[22:15:46] <tampakrap> Review work flow for KDE minor bumps and improve collaboration with arch teams +[22:15:49] <willikins> (kde) abcd, alexxy, carlo, cryos, dagger, deathwing00, jmbsvicetto, keytoaster, lxnay, mrpouet, patrick, scarabeus, spatz, sping, tampakrap, tgurr, wired +[22:15:51] <tampakrap> scarabeus: ^^? +[22:16:09] <scarabeus> it was written last time, wasn't it? +[22:16:56] <tampakrap> we were going to continue the discussion today +[22:17:10] <tampakrap> unless nothing new is going to be said +[22:17:14] <tampakrap> jmbsvicetto: ^^? +[22:17:39] <jmbsvicetto> tampakrap: iirc I had only one change and it was accepted +[22:18:42] <tampakrap> ok +[22:18:43] <tampakrap> next +[22:18:54] <tampakrap> KDE-4.4 status +[22:19:09] <tampakrap> 4.4.1 is out, you said that ppl reported problems with 4.4.0 +[22:19:14] <tampakrap> i didn't have any at least +[22:19:22] <scarabeus> i saw few people working on bindings finaly in overlay +[22:19:25] <scarabeus> which is great +[22:19:41] <tampakrap> indeed +[22:19:57] <tampakrap> can we have 4.4.1 as a stable candidate? regressions? blockers? +[22:20:02] <jmbsvicetto> It's working great here +[22:20:10] <jmbsvicetto> I don't have kdepim or kdebindings, though +[22:20:28] <tampakrap> kdepim is great, kdebindings needs work +[22:20:40] <dagger> I've got full kde-4.4.1 and it's good. I had problems migrating from 4.3.x with kmail, but it's all ok now +[22:20:50] <tampakrap> i guess we should pay attention on this and if there are no further problems we can have it as a stable candidate +[22:21:02] <spatz> schedule? +[22:21:33] <wired> 4.4.1 works great here too - and on colleague's system as well (users are best test :P) +[22:21:50] <tampakrap> i guess start of next month? scarabeus? +[22:22:06] <scarabeus> ok, i saw no more issues too +[22:22:18] <scarabeus> just check regressions against 4.3 -> 4.4 migration +[22:22:19] <alexxy> фдыщ нуы +[22:22:23] <scarabeus> and ok for 4.4.1 patch +[22:22:24] <alexxy> yep +[22:22:31] <alexxy> 4.4.1 works great +[22:22:41] <alexxy> also we use it at university +[22:22:45] <alexxy> as De for students +[22:23:06] <tampakrap> scarabeus: start of next month is ok? +[22:23:25] <scarabeus> yup +[22:23:26] <spatz> meaning two weeks from now? +[22:23:36] <tampakrap> no, stable bug +[22:23:43] <tampakrap> sorry misread :P +[22:23:44] <tampakrap> yes +[22:24:14] <tampakrap> unless there aren't any other things here, we can move +[22:24:21] --> dilfridge (~quassel@gateway.maximilianeum.mhn.de) has joined #gentoo-meetings +[22:24:34] <tampakrap> enterprise useflag for kdepim stuff (a use flag to follow the enterprise branch of the kdepim repo, only for trunk) +[22:24:54] <scarabeus> nobody sent any mail or word about working on it +[22:24:58] <scarabeus> so we should move it to todo +[22:25:04] <scarabeus> until someone feels motivated enough +[22:25:04] <tampakrap> i lack the hardware to proceed on this, plus i asked for help, noone answered +[22:25:19] <tampakrap> Sput: anything you want to say on this? +[22:25:36] <dagger> i dont know anything about it, but would like to get some information. what's different in enterprise branch? +[22:26:04] <dagger> does enterprise branch contain support for Openchange/libmapi? +[22:26:27] <dagger> (that's required for propler M$ exchange 2003/2007/2010 support) +[22:26:31] <tampakrap> enterprise branch for kdepim is the actual branch were kde developers care about +[22:26:39] <tampakrap> since kdepim trunk is broken right now +[22:26:47] <dilfridge> it's supposed to stay stable while everything else is being ported to akonadi (and broken in the meantime) +[22:26:47] <scarabeus> dagger: it is the branch that is more stable/solid, developers care about that one, because they are payed for that branch +[22:27:14] <dagger> so I guess it's not part of "default" kdepim right? +[22:27:20] <tampakrap> ok, we'll move this topic for next meeting, since there is no progress +[22:27:22] <tampakrap> right +[22:27:50] <tampakrap> let's move +[22:27:52] <tampakrap> koffice status +[22:28:10] <tampakrap> new koffice is released, i did a simple rename, and it currently is in hilarious status +[22:28:18] <tampakrap> some packages don't even compile +[22:28:53] -*- scarabeus told you so +[22:29:04] <tampakrap> i'll try to fix it, but i'll need help, anyone willing to help me is welcome +[22:29:16] <wired> i might +[22:29:25] <tampakrap> current ebuilds are hardmasked in overlay, tarball is not released yet +[22:29:31] <wired> okie +[22:29:55] <tampakrap> and we should be quick on this and try to have a schedule for stabilization too +[22:30:17] <tampakrap> as it also new packages +[22:30:34] <wired> btw i can help with quick-ish stabilization on amd64 +[22:30:42] <tampakrap> sure +[22:30:47] <Sput> tampakrap: enterprise branch is based on pre-akonadi kdepim and supposedly works +[22:30:56] <Sput> but a USE flag isn't gonna cut it, the packages are too different +[22:31:20] <Sput> also we might have to check what they have outside of kdepim, I think they even ship a hacked kdelibs +[22:31:26] <wired> o_O +[22:31:33] <wired> kdelibs-lite! +[22:31:34] <wired> ;p +[22:31:37] <Sput> (but Paul Adams told me it should work fine with 4.5) +[22:31:41] <tampakrap> yes, we need a different branch for this +[22:32:01] <Sput> there was a mail recently on kde-scm-interest where steveire detailed how branches work +[22:32:23] <Sput> kdepim is in the process of moving to git (as the rest of KDE) +[22:33:05] <Sput> in any case, the enterprise5 branch is going to be based on KDE 4.5, the enterprise4 branch is based on KDE 4.4 +[22:33:47] <tampakrap> ok thanks i'm going to add those info in a mail and try to revive the issue to users +[22:34:19] <tampakrap> moving to next one +[22:34:19] <Sput> also, it seems like KDAB doubts that they manage to get kdepim fixed in time for KDE 4.5 +[22:34:34] <Sput> there will be a meeting in a few weeks where they are going to decide what to do +[22:35:11] <Sput> one problem is that they got their branching all wrong and lost tons of commits for kmail trunk +[22:35:25] <Sput> because people were comitting to the wrong branch... +[22:35:45] <tampakrap> okie +[22:35:50] <tampakrap> next one +[22:35:56] <tampakrap> change kde-meta (and @kde-*) to include all modules (plus the developer specific ones) +[22:36:12] <tampakrap> there were some ppl in the mail i send that liked my idea +[22:36:21] <tampakrap> so i'd really like to move on this +[22:36:24] <tampakrap> scarabeus: ^^? +[22:36:29] <scarabeus> with useflag you can go ahead +[22:36:29] <wired> im still in favor of this if we use a USE flag +[22:36:31] <jmbsvicetto> I still don't like that +[22:36:49] <jmbsvicetto> At least not in kde-meta without a use flag +[22:36:51] <wired> dev || sdk +[22:36:59] <wired> both are nice use flags :) +[22:37:01] <scarabeus> jmbsvicetto: what i said above :P +[22:37:05] <jmbsvicetto> :P +[22:37:34] <tampakrap> ok, i'll add sdk useflag to kde-meta +[22:37:47] <tampakrap> and leave sets as they are +[22:37:52] <jmbsvicetto> not as IUSE default :P +[22:37:54] <tampakrap> i don't care about sets anyway +[22:37:58] <tampakrap> of course not +[22:38:00] <wired> lol +[22:38:02] <wired> +1 +[22:38:27] <tampakrap> sdk will contain bindings, kdewebdev and kdesdk? or should i leave bindings for now? +[22:38:53] <wired> do they work? +[22:39:03] <scarabeus> they do not mostly] +[22:39:09] <wired> do they build? +[22:39:12] <tampakrap> there are ppl working on them, so i guess they will in the near future +[22:39:20] <dilfridge> scarabeus: which bindings do not work? +[22:39:31] <scarabeus> csharp afaik +[22:39:35] <wired> if they build i vote on adding them, get people's attention :) +[22:40:11] <tampakrap> ok, i'll leave them out for now then, and add them later when they all build +[22:40:24] <tampakrap> afaik we don't even have a meta for bindings +[22:41:19] <tampakrap> thank you for this, next one is patches of kde-packager +[22:41:32] <tampakrap> jmbsvicetto / ABCD(absent): any news on this? +[22:42:18] <jmbsvicetto> tampakrap: sorry not yet +[22:42:34] <tampakrap> so i guess you need help on this? +[22:42:39] <jmbsvicetto> I'll focus on this for 4.4.1 onwards +[22:42:40] <tampakrap> any more ppl willing to help? +[22:43:07] <scarabeus> i have to work on something different, so i have to blob out, so enjoy the rest of the meeting, i will reply to pongs, but wont read +[22:43:07] <scarabeus> for latest topic i am with lieo (malformed for no highlight) +[22:44:10] <tampakrap> no worries +[22:44:15] <wired> scarabeus: is it something with leads that makes them be away all the time? +[22:44:20] <wired> :D +[22:44:27] <wired> j/k ofc, c ya later +[22:44:46] <tampakrap> let's raise the topic in next meeting to see if there will be any progress then +[22:45:05] <tampakrap> last topic and most important +[22:45:10] <tampakrap> split of desktop profile +[22:45:21] <tampakrap> leio / yngwin: your attention plz :) +[22:45:47] <yngwin> :) +[22:46:40] <tampakrap> leio: as i told you before, i really like the idea of mixed profiles and i am willing to work on it +[22:47:08] <jmbsvicetto> I like that idea as well +[22:47:11] <tampakrap> but i can't have an eta as i don't have a stable schedule atm and i don't even know how much time it wants to be finished +[22:47:16] <yngwin> me too, but i expect that will take a while to implement +[22:47:23] --> pesa (~Pesa@host124-126-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #gentoo-meetings +[22:47:27] <tampakrap> so i'd really like to proceed on commiting the patches i have prepared +[22:47:50] <tampakrap> so any objections? something wrong with them before i commit? +[22:48:48] <yngwin> no objections +[22:49:38] <wired> i haven't tested them (and i don't use the desktop profile :p) but i really like the idea, +1 +[22:51:06] <-- pesa (~Pesa@host124-126-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has left #gentoo-meetings ("Konversation terminated!") +[22:51:20] <tampakrap> leio seems away, so if you want you anything more you can pm me +[22:51:38] <tampakrap> i'll commit it this sunday fyi, i'll be out of town the next two days +[22:52:10] <leio> well, you know what I think +[22:52:26] <leio> (was here at start, but had a phone call afterwards) +[22:53:36] <tampakrap> cool, i'd take it as a :thumbup from the gnome team and proceed +[22:53:42] <leio> we have had the single desktop profile situation for, what? four years? So even waiting 3 months more to get the better method implemented would sound fine in my book, but as I can't work on that myself, I can't well argue against more subprofiles meanwhile +[22:55:00] <tampakrap> point taken +[22:55:32] <tampakrap> i guess the meeting is over, I'd also like to inform you i have updated docs, please check for any issues |